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Final Fantasy X PAL

Post by xxFantasyLove on 25th August 2011, 11:49 pm

I was wondering if any of you guys have a PAL PS2, meaning you got to play Final Fantasy X PAL. I recently found out that the PAL version of the game offers so much more and it's actually harder, with three types of sphere girds. However I was wondering if it's actually worth it. So far I found both the game and the PAL system on Ebay and I'm thinking about saving money for it, it's about 100 Dollars.

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If you happen to have both of the items above can you tell me if you liked the game and if you have beaten the Dark Aeons and Penance?


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Re: Final Fantasy X PAL

Post by ThaliaAnderson on 27th August 2011, 10:58 pm

Three Sphere Grids?! I had no idea about that. All I knew about was the addition of Penence and the Dark Aeons. Now I might get a PAL myself!


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Re: Final Fantasy X PAL

Post by xxFantasyLove on 28th August 2011, 11:14 pm

Yeah there is the one the NA one has. Then the PAL/INT Sphere grid which is very similar to the NA sphere grid. Then the expert grid. Below is quoted from a cheat guide online.

There are three Sphere Grids that span across the various versions of FFX.

1) The Original Sphere Grid, that appears in the North American and Original Jp

release.

2) The PAL/Int Standard Sphere Grid, which is very similar to the Original

Sphere Grid.

3) The Expert Sphere Grid, which is an entirely new Grid added to the PAL/Int

versions of FFX.

The Original Sphere Grid and Standard Sphere Grid are similar in that each

character has a clearly defined path that is blocked off at various places with

Lock Nodes. The only differences between the Original grid and the Standard

grid are the new abilities that are added to the Standard Grid, along with a

minor change in number of nodes on the entire Grid. The Original Sphere Grid

has 828 nodes. The Standard Sphere Grid has 860 nodes

The Expert Sphere Grid certainly does have paths for each character to follow,

but to the untrained eye it would seem that they don't. This, along with the

fact that you'll want to plan your course with each character instead of just

following a given path, is what makes this particular grid "Expert." Kind of a

poor choice of words, but meh. Other characters paths are readily accessible

to any character right off the bat, and there are more intersections that

connect different paths than found in the Original and Standard Grids. The

Expert Sphere Grid also has a different background color, a gold like color, as

opposed to they greyish background for the Original and Standard Grids. The

Expert Sphere Grid has 792 nodes.
[Full guide talking about the differences between The north america FFX & PAL/INT.
Click me to view all the differences.

According to this guy, you don't need to buy a PAL PS2, you can play the game on a NA PS2, however it requires you to obtain a swap magic disc, which is seems a little iffy. I love my PS2 as is, so I don't want to unscrew stuff and mess with the insides of my PS2.


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Re: Final Fantasy X PAL

Post by ThaliaAnderson on 29th August 2011, 7:13 am

Yeah, I wouldn't want to mess with my PS2 either. I just don't understand why they add all of this stuff into the PAL versions, but nobody ever does it for the NA versions. It's the same with "Ico"--in the PAL version, you can unlock a lightsaber and have two-player. How come us NA users always get ripped off from the really cool stuff?

I'm going to look in to getting the PAL version and system, though. I think that'd be fun to have both versions.


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Post by xxFantasyLove on 29th August 2011, 8:05 am

@ThaliaAnderson wrote:Yeah, I wouldn't want to mess with my PS2 either. I just don't understand why they add all of this stuff into the PAL versions, but nobody ever does it for the NA versions. It's the same with "Ico"--in the PAL version, you can unlock a lightsaber and have two-player. How come us NA users always get ripped off from the really cool stuff?

I'm going to look in to getting the PAL version and system, though. I think that'd be fun to have both versions.

I believe the NA version was released earlier before the PAL version. They did that for FFX-2 as well with extra dresspheres and The Last Mission.

Messing with a PS2 can also become messy if you don't know what your doing. And I believe you can't go into a gamestop and ask them "Can you mod my PS2 so I can play a PAL version of a certain game." I'm not sure. D: But it is nerve wrecking to open something you hold dear...plus nowadays PS2 are dying out because some PS3 backward compatible, meaning they can play PS2 games.

Here are a few things that are also in FFX PAL:
The PAL version of FFX released for Europe, Australia, New Zealand and other such locations that use the PAL colour encoding system in their televisions was given additional features to the NTSC version found in Japan, America, Canada etc. The differences are detailed on this page.
Abilities

Full Break: All four breaks (Power, Magic, Armour and Mental) inflicted on a chosen enemy at once. Uses 99 MP.
Quick Pockets: Use a normal item (for example, a Potion) with decreased recovery time. Uses 70 MP.
Pilfer Gil: Steal Gil from enemies, much like you use the Steal command to steal items. Uses 20 MP.
Nab Gil: Steal Gil and attack enemies at the same time, much like the Mug command to steal items. Uses 30 MP.
Extract Power: Makes an enemy drop Power Spheres instead of a regular item after you kill them. Uses 1 MP.
Extract Mana: Makes an enemy drop Mana Spheres instead of a regular item after you kill them. Uses 1 MP.
Extract Speed: Makes an enemy drop Speed Spheres instead of a regular item after you kill them. Uses 1 MP.
Extract Ability: Makes an enemy drop Ability Spheres instead of a regular item after you kill them. Uses 1 MP.


Weapon Abilities

Power Distill: Makes an enemy drop Power Spheres instead of a regular item after you kill them. Requires 2 Power Spheres to customise.
Mana Distill: Makes an enemy drop Mana Spheres instead of a regular item after you kill them. Requires 2 Mana Spheres to customise.
Speed Distill: Makes an enemy drop Speed Spheres instead of a regular item after you kill them. Requires 2 Speed Spheres to customise.
Ability Distill: Makes an enemy drop Ability Spheres instead of a regular item after you kill them. Requires 2 Ability Spheres to customise.


Armour Abilities

Ribbon: Protects against all status' except for Death, Curse, and the 4 breaks. Requires 99 Dark Matter to customise.


Miscellaneous

Quick Hit requires 36 MP to use, and is about half the speed (in terms of recovery time) compared to the US and Japanese versions.
The requirements for Zanmato are more easily met.
The Dark Aeons and Penance are exclusive to the PAL/International versions. They are optional super bosses, resembling your own aeons. Penance has more HP than any other boss in the Final Fantasy series (a whooping 12 million), almost completely maxed stats, 2 arms that keep regenerating, and takes around 40 minutes to beat.
Omega Weapon has 999999 HP, and not 99999 like the NTSC - U/C and the NTSC - J versions.
You can successfully bribe for 10x max HP off a fiend, instead of 20x in the other versions. However, you will get substainually less items and the success rate of a bribe lowers dramatically. If you miss the first time, just just bribing 1 Gil over and over until the fiend takes it.
The PAL version comes with a bonus DVD that has interviews with the voices actors for Tidus and Yuna, and a few of the Square staff.
The International version also has bonus DVD, showing "Another Story". It is a small clip about FFX-2, basically.
Oblivion, Tornado and Delta Attack all hit multiple times in the PAL/International versions (16, 2 and 6 respectively).
Behemoth will not use Meteor if you capture him.
Wakka's Attack Reels get an attack bonus if you stop the slots quickly.

I believe getting the PAL PS2 and FFX PAL will be worth it, mostly because FFX was an amazing game and to see people online beat Penance makes me so jealous that they live in Europe, Australia, New Zealand and other such locations . The links in my first post show a PAL PS2 and FFX PAL on Ebay, so I'm willing to save up lunch money and allowance in order to buy it. However you should make sure that you have a TV that can play PAL games...if you don't your pretty much out 90 dollars +/- In NA, Japan, and Canada, the chances of our TVs being PAL is very rare.

My dad thinks I'm silly for wanting to buy all this stuff, but it looks pretty and I'm determined to beat Penance and his 12 million HP!


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Re: Final Fantasy X PAL

Post by ThaliaAnderson on 29th August 2011, 9:31 am

Ahhh; I still wish it weren't so! They think up all this cool stuff after us Americans already have a game. XD

And yes, I read all that other stuff on the site you linked to. All Break would have been useful. :L

You need a PAL television, too?! Whaaaa. But I know what you mean. I'd love to kill Penance, and even now, I sometimes go back to the temples in my games, just to check see if mayyyyybe somehow my game will have changed and I can get fight a Dark Aeon. XD I think I'm going to put this on my birthday wishlist and see what happens. c:


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Re: Final Fantasy X PAL

Post by 01habbo on 29th August 2011, 12:48 pm

If you are talking about the version with the Dark Aeons and Penance it does not have three sphere grids only two. I like in the UK so I recieved the version with the Dark Aeons, it is worth getting just for these bosses alone as they are really challenging, with some of them you have to meet certain conditions for them to appear aswell.

So yes definately, if you can buy it, but there are not 3 sphere grids, only two.
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Re: Final Fantasy X PAL

Post by sunheart on 29th August 2011, 7:31 pm

I always had PAL, that's the format in the UK and all of europe I believe. It only has two sphere grids as far as I can remember :/ I'm currently working towards fighting the dark aeons. They are soo hard, kill me in one shot - even with auto-life I die >.< So i'm trying to perfect the game - getting everyone's celestial weapons, acing blitzball and levelling like crazy. my characters are slowly but surely growing, so proud xD


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Re: Final Fantasy X PAL

Post by xxFantasyLove on 29th August 2011, 8:31 pm

@sunheart wrote:I always had PAL, that's the format in the UK and all of europe I believe. It only has two sphere grids as far as I can remember :/ I'm currently working towards fighting the dark aeons. They are soo hard, kill me in one shot - even with auto-life I die >.< So i'm trying to perfect the game - getting everyone's celestial weapons, acing blitzball and levelling like crazy. my characters are slowly but surely growing, so proud xD
I figured they were going to be hard...nothing is ever easy...well NA version is easy. D: I never got everyone's Celestial weapon, I believe I got Kimarhi's, Yuna, and Rikku. Lulu's weapon became a pain in the butt to even try and get. DX and I totally suck at blitzball, so Wakka and Tidus's weapon were out of the question. But I did make a bootleg version of Lulu's weapon. XD
@01habbo wrote:If you are talking about the version with the Dark Aeons and Penance it does not have three sphere grids only two. I like in the UK so I recieved the version with the Dark Aeons, it is worth getting just for these bosses alone as they are really challenging, with some of them you have to meet certain conditions for them to appear aswell.

So yes definately, if you can buy it, but there are not 3 sphere grids, only two.
Well that sucks, it has the standard grid right...its like the NA version but with the exception of the extra powers right? But it still has the expert grid?

Oh and you also get to fight Penance and not just the dark aeons, right?

It's still worth it, but I'm trying so hard to get the final two fiends for the Battle arena where you have to find 5 or every monster in Spira and then 10 of every monster.
@ThaliaAnderson wrote:Ahhh; I still wish it weren't so! They think up all this cool stuff after us Americans already have a game. XD

And yes, I read all that other stuff on the site you linked to. All Break would have been useful. :L

You need a PAL television, too?! Whaaaa. But I know what you mean. I'd love to kill Penance, and even now, I sometimes go back to the temples in my games, just to check see if mayyyyybe somehow my game will have changed and I can get fight a Dark Aeon. XD I think I'm going to put this on my birthday wishlist and see what happens. c:
Yeah it would have been perfect if we had a PAL TV, honestly I hope we have one in the house because I know my dad isn't going to get an extra TV just so I can play a video game or two. DX

Yup. D: I would put it on my wishlist but my parents are already deciding what to get me. So videos games aren't on that list. D:


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Re: Final Fantasy X PAL

Post by 01habbo on 29th August 2011, 11:36 pm

Yes it has the standard grid and the expert grid, as far as I know our grids are no different to yours.

And yes Penance is there too XD
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Re: Final Fantasy X PAL

Post by ThaliaAnderson on 30th August 2011, 11:19 pm

xxFLove: My birthday is a few days after Christmas, so when I saw "birthday" list, it's kind of for Christmas, too, hahha.

I just re-finished FFX, and I got everybody's weapon except for Kimahri's. :[ Those stupid freaking butterflies were driving me nuts! But this was my first time getting Lulu's or Wakka's or Tidus'. I went through sooo many hours of Blitzball, but hey; I came out with zero losses for my entire blitz career. (:

And Lulu was...an hour in a dark room, praying I didn't get hit. ksdjfhasjkltnseklruhybf.


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Re: Final Fantasy X PAL

Post by xxFantasyLove on 31st August 2011, 1:47 am

Thanks Habbo. Your girds have extra powers that the NA version doesn't have. D:

Thalia: So is mine. XD That is probably why I'll probably just get a mac book for my birthday/X-mas gift.

Kimahri's is so annoying, the butterflies drove me insane. I gave up after like 36 tries.

Lulu's I tried to do, I got up to like 90 and got struck by a bolt. I gave up.

But my mine characters are Yuna, Rikku, Tidus, Auron, and probably Wakka.


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Re: Final Fantasy X PAL

Post by sunheart on 25th September 2011, 11:35 pm

OH YEAAH! I've just got everyone's celestial weapons! Woohooo! Now to create ultimate armour for them all, which means bribing the crap outta those marlboros xD Then I can tackle the dark aeons...

Yeah!! I'm gonna perfect it this time, a perfect game!!


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